- Union Update
Union Update: How we make decisions
- 17.04.2018
The impact of the Anno Union on our development decisions
In the past, we have often talked how cooperating with the community is an immense help for us in the development of Anno 1800. Given some of the reactions to last week’s DevBlog, we want to talk about this a bit more today.
Thanks to everyone here on the dev team at Ubisoft Blue Byte Mainz working together, we have so far been able to share close to 70 blogs, as well as streams and events with you all since we kicked off the Anno Union- which is a very rare level of information for a game so early in development. In turn, your reactions and comments to these blogs provide us with a large pool of feedback to work with. It is not uncommon for some of these suggestions to make it right onto our Development Roadmap.
Sometimes we are looking for concrete focused answers to our questions, while at other times we are seeking a large amount of more unfiltered thoughts from the community. By inviting community members to the studio, we get an additional spotlight and point of view on certain situations. Sadly, some commenters reacting to our last DevBog read this as the comments in the Anno Union being less relevant- we want to absolutely emphasize that this is not the case. We received hundreds of comments with ideas and suggestions on the topic of land-based combat, all of which we filed for reports that were presented to the team for analysis. Personal discussions and focus groups with Union members are an additional feedback loop beyond – not instead of – online comments for us. We also try to ensure that we have a good variety of player types and age groups for such discussions, to give us a good range of opinions on the topics.
We consider community feedback for all of our decisions; however, in most cases it cannot be the sole deciding factor, especially when it comes to features that based on their complexity would affect countless other aspects of the game. With the Anno Union, we are inviting players to become part of our team, and to influence certain game content and features through their feedback and votes. However, a project of this size and logistical complexity cannot be realized without some decision makers who bear the responsibility in the end. To succeed, we have to carefully balance many creative aspects with the realities of their associated production costs and timelines. The hardest decisions are of course always those where we know that they will disappoint some of our fans. Unfortunately, implementing all the feedback and especially the many all-new ideas and suggestions from the community is simply not feasible within a realistic timeframe and budget.
Was land-based combat never considered before and how are you not able to find a working design?
Since the beginning of the project, we have considered different ways to integrate land-based combat to the game as an enriching addition to the gameplay. Despite our efforts, we had to realize that fully developing this part of the game would not be possible to integrate without necessitating steep cuts to other parts of the game. The early decision to cut out land-based combat allowed us to create a more refined naval combat system and to expand on many other features of Anno 1800’s core gameplay and content.
After last fall’s announcement and the resulting feedback, our team started to work on several concepts based on our experience and expectations from our communities. Creating a working design concept is only one thing; the accompanying production effort and ressources are an entirely different beast. Even if we would technically be able to just copy the land-based combat from Anno 1701 or 1404, it would still result in a major effort to adapt the system for Anno 1800. We are not talking about balancing of the production chains and creating the underlying game logic for the combat system, we would need to spend major resources on coding, creation of assets, animating of units as well as changing all system, which are affected by the land-based combat.
Where’s the information on the naval battles?
After the introduction of our basic concepts back in November, it has been our goal that the next update on the naval battles will not just describe them in words, but also shows it in action. Videos and screenshots will ensure that the next DevBlog on the naval battles will not only put you in the right mood, but will also give you a proper understanding of the feature. Despite this, it was very important to us to be transparent with the community, and to share the news on the omission of land-based combat as soon as possible.
Similar to the classic Anno games, naval battles will take place In the middle of your colonized game world and will offer enough complexity and tactical variety to ensure that both battles on the high seas, and around your harbors are exciting and varied. We have to ask you for a little more patience until we can give you a detailed look at how all of this will work in Anno 1800. Your many comments have already given us some very valuable feedback, and some suggestions and ideas are already being implemented into the naval battles.
I do understand why you had to isolate land based combat, but that does not mean it is not an essential part of the anno game. I am disappointed that it is not going to be in the game when released, but I do understand why you had to take this drastic measure. Land base combat should be considered as the first major DLC. The reason why I prefer anno over all other city building games is because of the chain production, citizen classes, and other amazing gameplay features including how it perfectly combines the elements of economics and military in a city building game.
I agree completely. I would rather land combat and have the game delayed 1 year and cost twice as much. The destruction and conquering aspects was the climax of my games with my friends. No matter the programmatical or technical challenge, without land combat the game will fall short of previous titles. It could be great its own way, as I can already tell it will be, but that doesn’t change much.
I completely agree, land combat together with naval combat was what I loved with Anno over any other city building game. It added a fresh challenge attached to it.
I would disagree. For me, land based combat was never an essential part of an anno game. Quite the contrary. It was almost one of the biggest weaknesses of that series.
*always
While I’m part of the community that would really love land-based combat to return to Anno (especially because this era has enormous potential!), I thought that land-based combat was already a passed station after to warfare blogs some time ago. I’m surprised you guys came back on it (which to me shows you take our feedback very serious).
While I’m still disappointed that land-based combat won’t be part of Anno, I hope that the features that replace it will be worth it.
Though I don’t expect it anymore I will still keep wishing that land-based combat will make some grant return to Anno one day.
Nice screenshot btw, looks really good 🙂
I’m very excited to hear that a blog about the naval combat is on the way. It’s one of the things I’ve really been waiting for. I hope that naval combat has improved significantly since the last Anno titles. Although the naval combat in previous titles was really fun, I do think it could use a major overhaul.
You guys are amazing, I have never seen such a passionate development team. All the blogs in the webpage, the community feedback, the course of the game development is a really precious information that the player base of this Anno games appreciate a lot. I sent you some e-mails asking for information about how to get into the game development in Blue Byte but I guess you have a lot of them every day. It would mean a lot to me if I could know something.
Keep with the amazing job 🙂
It highly depends where you sent the e-mail to exactly. Do you know our Discord fan community? Many of our developers visit the discord chat once a while and that is in general a good place to ask questions regarding game development or to have a friendly chat with our community and our developers: https://discordapp.com/invite/V4xhZ8Z
Thank you so much! I didn’t know about it, for sure I will take a look
Alright, as you wish. If you do not feel like taking risks and spending time on land combat, that’s your choice. But know that I am and probably a very large part of the community very disappointed …
It is not by staying in your comfort zone that you will do good Anno again
You are NOT a large part of the community, boo. Speak for yourself.
I’m with “guest-9UKKxdQU” and the land-based combat crowd. You just can’t ignore a decent chunk of Anno patrons.
Yeah, I agree. Very disappointed about the lack of ground combat as well. I remember it as being one of the fun parts in Anno 1404, where my brother and I would have to defend the transport of our armies with our naval ships, while we went on and conquered islands in the Orient.
Exactly this!
The biggest question was “How do we take over islands without combat?”
I have a vague memory that it was mentioned in an earlier devblog.
We have had a discussion about this on the Anno Reddit, and the consensus is that you are doing the right thing.
There is a lot of diverse and highly constructive feedback about that topic in the Anno Union community and other places like r/Anno out there. So keep the discussions going, every input is valuable for us.
Wow! I hope that’s an in-game screenshot, because it looks stunning!! 😀 The smoggy skyline of the city, wow!! I can’t wait for the game to come out!! 😀 <3<3
it does look nice
Yes, the screenshot itself is in-game and from our latest build, including all the ship models. However, we are still playing around with and testing how lighting, color grading and the general mood in the final game should be, so I can’t promise that the game will look exactly like this when it ships (pardon the pun).
Best,
Marcel